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what kinda tools to make darkpsy?

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Hey, I am trying my hand at music production these days and I know there is a lot of people that frequent tribe that also make music. I was just curious what you all use for sequencing? I am on a PC and currently using cubase myself.
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    Re: what kinda tools to make darkpsy?

    Wed, January 11, 2006 - 4:36 PM
    Abelton 5
    Tracktor 3
    Acid 5

    The Holy Trinity !!!

    m-audio firewire audiophile breakout boxes
    stanton digital turntables
    stanton digital cd decks
    Numark digital mixer
    Yamaha DJX II and II B keyboard and groovebox
    Phatboy Midi Controller


    REAKTOR !!!!
    Absynth 3 !!!


    listen to my stream for my original music mixed with the best in Psytrance and Goa....
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      Wed, January 11, 2006 - 10:26 PM
      nice.. just got the demo of Abelton 5 and trying to figure it out as well.
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        Wed, January 11, 2006 - 11:49 PM
        i like ableton, but i don't think i could really produce in it, its layout is great for its live use though.

        i have really enjoyed the layout of sonar, it has buttons for every window instead of tons of shortcut keys, and it is great on processor as well as having a beautiful sound.

        i really like wavelab for mastering final mixdown.

        waves platinum bundle all the way

        greg
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          Thu, January 12, 2006 - 8:28 AM
          I like Logic for sequencing. There is a lot to learn at first, but once you get the "logic" behind the program, it becomes a powerful and intuitive tool with endless posibilities.
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          Thu, January 12, 2006 - 8:47 AM
          that is what abelton is good for..i use it for live mixing on the fly.
          yes, WAVES totally rules and have been using since the first version
          Sonar? Never been to comfortable with the layout and not too MIDI oriented anymore. I have my original Cakewalk versions but never upgraded. I did try the demo but never could get it to install correctly.
          I love wavelab a lot also but have been a avid user of Sound Forge since 1.0


          It would be really nice to buy Samplitude 9, which is amazing but very pricey.
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    Tue, January 24, 2006 - 1:32 AM
    The best advice is to use your own creativity to find out what will work. Anything will have it's charm and character if used the right way. I'd say avoid most software and use devices which allow hand tweaking. But it may become costly and that's where software may come in handy (if not overpriced). If you want that retro feeling and rock solid timing, get a Commodore Amiga and octamed, www.octamed.co.uk/ . Or just use octamed on the pc, but then you have to combat windows and the x86 hardware. One recommendation on music hardware I should make, that is get some synth based on the C=64 sid chip, like the sidstation, that sound is really great. www.sidstation.com and www.hardsid.com
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    Fri, February 24, 2006 - 9:26 AM
    live 5 rocks for workflow and efficiency, and especially for live performance, and is very easy to use. almost as easy to use as reason (except for those damn virtual cable tangles in reason, ugh!), but far more powerful and the overall sound is much better. the only thing tough to do is the final mix because the faders ain't so big. for that i'd just freeze all your tracks and import to cubase or logic.

    for psy, you need synths that allow for a lot of modulation but are also CPU efficient so you can work with lots of layers. absynth 2 is probably best for that (3 is a CPU hog, and really isn't that much cooler), and is a favorite of psy producers across the globe. the envelopes really let you get wild, and no other synth can compare to them in terms of that, even expensive hardware. reaktor also is good but a friggin CPU hog if i ever saw one and isn't the best thing to run as a plugin unless you have a quad G5 or something. great for creating wacky rhythm loops and wierd effects though running standalone through the recorderbox.

    square 1 is getting your kick nice and poppy. then the mean bass. then your squelches, swoops, bubbles and psychedelic leads (that's the really tough part).

    you can do it all on software these days, but plugin filters still can't compare to the filters on a Moog Voyager or a Virus. save up for one of those if you want the fiercest sound possible, but only if you're damn serious about it. they don't come cheap.

    even with all these tools, they're worthless unless you know how to use them to get the right sounds. find a bona-fide psy producer in your area to take you under his or her wing, or offer to pay for lessons or sit in on studio sessions.

    if you ever come out to LA i can give you a private lesson. i teach music synthesis at the ICON underground - the only recognized school in the country (at least the only one i know of) that focuses specifically on electronic dance music production in a studio environment.

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